Yes. I remember in 2014, the approval rating of President Ma Ying-jeou at the time was at 9%. And so in a country of 23 million, anything the president says, 20 million people are against him. But the problem is those 20 million people themselves are deeply polarized. One faction wants to free China. Another faction wants to be free from China. And they're equally strong. And so there's a lot of fighting.