So the aim was to sort of weaponize this swift trust, but send it off in a good direction. And you've shown that it can be done. You've done it in Taiwan over the course of eight years. Well, kind of longer because you were an activist doing this kind of work before you became a minister. But I wouldn't mind backtracking actually, and getting you to talk us through how you got those campaigns off the ground, and maybe refer to some of the specific campaigns that show what can be done with technology when it's used in a cooperative way. So do you want to give us two or three examples of some really great projects that give a feel for listeners as to the work that you've done -- that sort of mindset, that approach can then be used for what we're wanting to do here, and that is wrestle back control of AI.