In Taiwan, we are very young. We literally only had our first presidential election in '96, which was already after the World Wide Web and personal computing. From the very beginning, we thought of democracy through the lens of internet networking. Co-creation, presidential hackathons, participatory budgets, the Join platform, e-petitions are not seen as an extra plug-in to an existing system. We had no existing system. All of these are a bricolage that you can put together, with a strong sense of learning by doing.