
I think we’ve done an amazing amount as an organization and as a movement to create space for us to be able to get something out of that. But when I look at where that comes from, it actually comes from the place where we have a lot of power, and they have none — which is the moral valence, the moral capacity that this organization has in the world. It is just immensely powerful. And none of these companies have an ounce of that. And that is a place, I think, where we have real leverage. I don’t know that we have figured out what to do with it yet, as a movement or even as a foundation. I think that we should, because that is a place where we can really wield influence. If there’s a place where we’re going to change the way that AI operates — as this market settles, as AI goes from being a magical technology to a normal technology embedded in many, many things — I think that is the space in which we can structure the conversation, and make it work the way that we think the world ought to work.