Audrey Tang

Yeah, that's the Taoist part, right? If people are much more willing to co-create and innovate together in social innovation, then it's everyone's business with everyone's help. And when you ask people on the street of Taiwan who is responsible for the very successful counter pandemic effort, they're like, "Of course, it's us, the people. The government... they do a little bit, but it's mostly the people," they would say.

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