So, the counter-proposal is not to find allies who would never betray us — and I include Taiwan in that； we should not assume. It is to say: we will use, for example, chips from Taiwan — as we did with Taiwan PCs in personal computing — but configure things so that the relevant communities do not stay on the other side. For whatever part of the stack lacks a local component, we insist that we never go to the same vendor for two adjacent points in the stack. That was my rule of thumb as moda minister, because, frankly, Taiwan enterprises and civil society do not have answers for every part of the stack. We have to use some components, no doubt — but no vendor may own two adjacent layers； they must always speak interoperably, openly, inspectably.