Yes. In 2014, when the Sunflower Movement happened, President Ma Ying-jeou was at a 9% approval rating. So in a country of 23.5 million people, anything the President said, 20 million people didn't really trust. However, we understood that “to give no trust is to get no trust,” the government needed to radically trust the people. And through the vTaiwan process, we did exactly that.