Whether we can get it passed or not, it’s anyone’s call.
Yeah, it is a stretch, but help framing the narrative, too, from the perspective of a person who really want to contribute to Taiwan, not just in a economic sense, but as a brand-building sense. I think that will...
...massively help the message that the NDC is trying to convey to the parliament. This is a talent visibility play. This is not just a "we don’t have enough babies born, so we need more work force" play.
Which has been the main message, which is why I’m kind of worried.
That’s right.
It’s in the 60-day commentary period . I think it still has like 50 days to go, and then after which the NDC will take the public comments. If there’s lots of comments supporting it and nothing against it, it will go straight to the parliament, which begins the session, I think late September-ish.
I think it will start deliberating substantially in October. If it misses the October deliberation period, and it misses November, then it will be the next session. It will be next March, so there is a window in which that we need to get the public, if not enthusiastic, at least not opposing this act.
It will also help your message as well, because your whole message is like, "This is possible." Starting from the most possible one certainly beats the almost impossible, right?
Do you mean domestically?
Certainly, we get the job creators abroad to showcase their quality jobs, and the talent people loves the story that utilizes, for example, when the air lapse of those foreign multinationals speaking establishing in Taiwan.
We make sure that their message is on positive social impact, like how it will transform our education, on how it will empower the indigenous and to less empowered communities to revitalize their language with someone from the Common Voice project from Mozilla. I like that a lot, because it is participatory AI. It is not predatory AI.
Basically, by showcasing job creation opportunities that in the same time enhance the social welfare or enhance social solidarity, we’re saying, "The foreigners are here to help us to create a diverse society that can nevertheless find common values."
What people don’t like was in the old, pre-labor act era when there all we had was the 工廠法, the manufacturing plant act, in which practically every foreign company would do large investment in job creation here, as either tradeoff to either environmental sustainability or social stability. [laughs]
That’s not the kind of message we want to get across. Still, for people who are older, they still remember the days when the multinationals are here and hired a lot of foreigners, who are essentially in a different class. They may create some jobs, but at the expense of social solidarity or environmental sustainability.
Right. We’re now saying, like there’s a September, I think -- November? conference called GEC+, and it’s...
The idea is really pushing it, and it’s part of the Global Entrepreneurship network, and so they’re going to have their own conference here in Taiwan, the summit. Just like in the digital economy, Digital Innovation Forum, which was a APAC thing.
Still, what we’re saying is that we’re enabling social impact with AI-plus, I would say. Whatever technology and whatever jobs we create, those are just instruments.
The values are sustainable development, and the values are social solidarity, positive social impact, and so on. That’s the main narrative. Just by saying, "Here are these people who are looking to contribute to Taiwan’s social or environmental..."
To increase diversity, and for the general social good.
Yeah. There’s a similar campaign from New Zealand a few years ago where they called a Global Impact Visa, or GIVs.
They partnered with the Edmund Hillary Foundation to give this special visa that you don’t need any investment. You don’t need any qualification other than that you demonstrate that you can create positive social impact somewhere, and you’re willing to take those skills to New Zealand.
They give you funding, fellowship, investment, and whatever. One of the -- I think it was a lawyer or someone who applied for this, specifically to help the Maori people to give their river personhood, legal personhood.
The river can be part of the board. The river can be part of anything, just like a company, and the river is collaboratively, their interest is being represented by someone from the government and someone from the tribe. That’s because they have a very interesting constitution that is basically a treaty between the Maori people and the colonizers.
This allows for this new kind of legal invention, but then it puts a whole new spin on venture philantrophy, on impact investing, because you’re treating, just like the Maori people did, a river as a person.
And donating to the river’s spirit. If the river gets polluted, it’s physical harm to that legal person then.
Right. The river can file a lawsuit.
That’s what this kind of narrative does, because at the same time, New Zealand is also bringing up other kinds of resets of courts. By focusing on these kind of stories, the New Zealand see those foreigners as enhancing the Maori spirit or enhancing the local sustainability campaigns.
Some stories like that, I think would be very useful.
Yeah, of course.
That’s right. What’s the dialogue next Wednesday?
When is this?
Like, which hour?
OK...
Mm-mm.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s great.
She’s cool.
Awesome. I’ve got at that time slot, a hackathon here to attend to so I may or may not be able to join, but because PIDIS Is like 22 people, I’m sure that someone will be interested.
Can you maybe send me an email?
I’ll circulate it.
You already have it.
There you go. Yes.
Cool, so that’s done. Anything else you would like to explain?
Yes. The NDC itself, actually...
...is the main office.
Yeah. [laughs]
Yeah, the NDC just recently opened a GDPR negotiation office. They’re the main office to negotiate with the EU on compliance, and also, it’s the main coordinator of the various ministries that provides GDPR consultancy.
If you just google "NDC GDPR", you’ll find it.
